The evening started out as a contentious one when it was
advertised to be simply one of discussion. Upon our arrival at approximately
7PM, we found Mr Feiner already engaged in conversation with another attendee
regarding the Edgemont Incorporation. It was then that Karen Kelly, one of the
organizers, asked him to stop “politicking”. Mr Feiner claimed he had a right
to speak to whomever he pleases. She loudly told him that this was not his
meeting, it was a Hartsdale residents’ meeting and he would be given a chance
to speak. He shouted back that he had a first amendment right to free speech
and she said he should respect that this was their meeting not his. At this
point, Police Chief McNerney intervened and tried to diffuse the situation. It would have been more cordial of Mr
Feiner to have respected her wishes and the organization and stepped outside to have a private
conversation.
The meeting began late as the members of the Hartsdale Neighbors
group that organized it scrambled to find and set up more chairs as the growing
audience eventually exceeded 100 people. Three members of the Hartsdale group
ran the meeting. Dan Weinfeld first explained the ground rules: this was not a night for political discussion, it was not about attacking the Edgemont group
seeking incorporation and that everyone should remain civil to each other. It was an informational session. Mr
Feiner would be given five minutes at the end to make a statement, as would
Edgemont Incorporation member Jeff Sherwin. You may recall that Mr Sherwin made
two unsuccessful attempts the previous week to deliver the incorporation
petition signatures and the $6,000 filing fee to Town Hall, being told that the
only person allowed to receive them was Mr Feiner - who was on vacation!
No other Town Board members were in attendance, although Town
Attorney Tim Lewis and Town Clerk Judith Beville were there. There were several
police officers whether on duty or as community members, one of whom asked legitimate
questions. The standing room only audience remained mostly quiet, respectful of any
speakers, only occasionally asking them to speak louder as there was no
microphone or amplification available.
Mr Dan Weinfeld gave a brief video presentation explaining the
makeup of the Town’s Unincorporated sections of Greenburgh, focusing primarily
on the Hartsdale and Fairview sections of the Town. He explained the makeup of
the river town villages, including Ardsley and Elmsford, populations of both
the Villages and the Unincorporated Town, and the services used by all. It was a
very encompassing presentation and well-received. During his presentation, Mr
Weinfeld stressed that all of this information is on their website (www.hartsdaleneighbors.org) or on
the Edgemont Incorporation site (www.edgemont2017.org).
After Mr Weinfeld concluded his portion of the presentation, Mr Luis Polit presented a breakdown of the financial facts of what is
currently being collected in revenue to the Town, Edgemont’s portion of it and
the projected changes should Edgemont incorporate and become the Town’s 7th
village. Once he concluded, another of the citizen organizers, Jason Muldoon,
stepped in and explained that Mr Feiner and Mr Sherwin would be speaking next,
reiterating that this is not a political discussion. He also did a quick show
of hands to see how people found out about this meeting. Clearly most were
there through Mr Feiner’s GBList email notifications.
He then offered Mr Feiner five minutes to speak. He addressed the crowded room by giving an example of a Village that had incorporated in 2010 without stating it was Mastic Beach. He then proceeded to either find fault with the Edgemont incorporation or say why it wouldn’t work. As is often the case, Mr Feiner deflected away from the topic at hand, changing his story, only to refer to his sheet of talking points to return to his reasons why the Edgemont incorporation was not going to work. After five minutes, Mr Muldoon cut Mr Feiner off, stating his five minutes were up – a bittersweet moment for those who attend Town Board meetings and are only given minutes to discuss anything in front of his Board.
He then offered Mr Feiner five minutes to speak. He addressed the crowded room by giving an example of a Village that had incorporated in 2010 without stating it was Mastic Beach. He then proceeded to either find fault with the Edgemont incorporation or say why it wouldn’t work. As is often the case, Mr Feiner deflected away from the topic at hand, changing his story, only to refer to his sheet of talking points to return to his reasons why the Edgemont incorporation was not going to work. After five minutes, Mr Muldoon cut Mr Feiner off, stating his five minutes were up – a bittersweet moment for those who attend Town Board meetings and are only given minutes to discuss anything in front of his Board.
Mr Sherwin was the last speaker who took the opportunity to
quickly debunk Mr Feiner’s example of Mastic Beach, which had incorporated and then several years later voted to undo the incorporation. Mr Sherwin pointed out that it was
not a fair or accurate comparison as the population of Mastic Beach was 12.8
thousand versus Edgemont’s 7,300 and the disparity in revenues was equally different. Mr Feiner often relies on incorrect information for shock value and doesn’t often encounter immediate and correct informational challenges.
Mr Sherwin proceeded to read a prepared statement, thanking the Hartsdale and Unincorporated residents for allowing him the opportunity to speak. He mentioned that like the Hartsdale group, they were just a group of citizen volunteers seeking to control their community’s destiny as the Town has not worked with them multiple times, citing the Dromore Road and Shelbourne projects as two recent and drawn out examples. The focus was also not as much about saving money for Edgemont taxpayers, although that would be a benefit based on their calculations, but about their destiny, zoning and development considerations.
Mr Sherwin proceeded to read a prepared statement, thanking the Hartsdale and Unincorporated residents for allowing him the opportunity to speak. He mentioned that like the Hartsdale group, they were just a group of citizen volunteers seeking to control their community’s destiny as the Town has not worked with them multiple times, citing the Dromore Road and Shelbourne projects as two recent and drawn out examples. The focus was also not as much about saving money for Edgemont taxpayers, although that would be a benefit based on their calculations, but about their destiny, zoning and development considerations.
Once the speakers concluded, Mr Muldoon opened the floor to
questions. Many of the residents seemed to focus on information as to how they
would be affected financially, through tax increases and personnel cuts should
incorporation move forward. One gentlemen, who is obviously one of Mr Feiner’s
supporters began to raise political points and was quickly shut down. One woman
asked Mr Feiner if this information was on the Town website. Mr Feiner did not
directly answer her and when pushed by others who followed up said he would
have to discuss it with his Board. Mr Sherwin said that the information,
feasibility study and more is on the EIC website as well as the Hartsdale Neighbors
website. ABG would suggest in the interest of fairness that the Town at least
publish a link on the Town’s website to these other two sites.
Occasionally, a question would arise that the Hartsdale
members could not answer and they were very candid and simply said so. Mr
Sherwin seemed well prepared with facts and figures and offered information
numerous times without seeming to be adversarial or confrontational. It was a
relief and pleasant to see both sides working together even though they have
different interests and outcomes at heart. Also in attendance were several
people who claimed to be from Edgemont who did not favor Edgemont incorporation,
including Mr Hugh Schwartz, a Feiner appointed Planning Board member. And while
they were able to make their points behind their rationale, it never became a
tug of war between the two factions.
Several questions were directed at Mr Feiner, asking what contingencies
the Town had planned should the incorporation move forward, as it was obviously
doing? Mr Feiner stated that he sent an email and snail mail out to constituents
asking for volunteers to serve on a Citizen Task Force to work with his
Commissioners on this. Long-time Greenburgh Central School Board President Terry Williams asked
why the Town was not hiring professionals to address this. He said that that may be the
Task Force’s recommendation and direction they go. Several followed up on that and asked why
something wasn’t done sooner. Mr Feiner ultimately fell back to his position
that he didn’t believe the incorporation would happen but never gave an tangible answer.
In the end, this will be decided by only Edgemont residents in the Town who can vote for incorporation. Many believe Mr Feiner will increase his email blasts and snail mail mailings to thwart the EIC's efforts all on the taxpayer dime. Regardless, it promises to be an interesting ride for the next several months. While we too are anxious about how the incorporation will financially impact the unincorporated Town, we applaud both groups for their respective efforts and civility. This is what helps to make A Better Greenburgh.
TO ABG: thanks for attending and for the accurate and fair summary.
ReplyDeleteYes, thank you ABG, I posted the following on an Edgemont site.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised that at a meeting where residents expressed a strong desire for contingency plans should incorporation happen, Supervisor Feiner was more focused on the ‘incorporation vote’ instead of the true concerns of Hartsdale residents. Per Feiner, "It ain't over until it's over" and he went further and stated “I am comfortable in saying that this is going down in defeat” so please don't take this vote for granted because I for one do not take Feiner’s power and influence for granted (and neither should anyone else).
Unfortunately, I expect Supervisor Feiner will spend more of his resources and time attempting to defeat our efforts instead of dealing with the concerns of the rest of unincorporated Greenburgh (once incorporation happens). Supervisor Feiner clearly misunderstood the intentions of last night’s meeting.
If Edgemont becomes a village, it's clear what will happen to the unincorporated area. And what we must consider. Simply. Aside from reductions in staff and possibly services, our taxes will rise and our votes for supervisor and board elections will be further weakened by the unequal voting power of the villages over us.
DeleteOne would hope the savings would start with pay cuts for town board members. Better yet relegate the supervisor position to a part time position and hire a professional town manager. Let's see in anyone in the private sector will hire Mr. Feiner.
Deletemeant to say if anyone in the private sector will hire Mr. Feiner.
DeleteIf Edgemont becomes a village then the only proper response would be the resignation of career politicians Feiner and Juettner whose fiscal malfeasance and focus on the trivial has helped marginalize and balkanize the TOV. It will take the same 25 years of their tenure to undo the damage they have caused.
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